Monday 25 January 2010

Rogers Says Shanghai, Hong Kong Property in Bubble, May Fall

Shanghai and Hong Kong property prices may fall after being driven higher by speculative demand, while the rest of the Chinese economy is “hardly in a bubble,” investor Jim Rogers said.

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Rogers Says Shanghai, Hong Kong Property in Bubble, May Fall

By Shiyin Chen and Valarie Tan
19 January 2010

(Bloomberg) -- Shanghai and Hong Kong property prices may fall after being driven higher by speculative demand, while the rest of the Chinese economy is “hardly in a bubble,” investor Jim Rogers said.

Attempts by China’s government to restrain lending may ease speculation and accelerating inflation, Rogers said in an interview in Bloomberg’s Singapore bureau today.

Property prices in 70 cities across China climbed 7.8 percent in December, the fastest pace in 18 months, a government report showed last week. Hong Kong’s real estate prices rallied the most among the world’s major housing markets last year, according to property adviser Knight Frank LLP, adding to signs that the city’s home values have risen too much.

“Certainly, Shanghai real estate or Hong Kong real estate should decline,” Rogers said. “My goodness, if anything’s in a bubble in the world, that and U.S. government bonds are certainly very overpriced.”

China’s property sales jumped 75.5 percent to 4.4 trillion yuan ($644 billion) last year, led by the eastern cities of Zhejiang and Shanghai, the National Bureau of Statistics said in a statement on its Web site today. Fred Hu, Goldman Sachs Group Inc.’s chairman for Greater China, said yesterday real estate prices in China, Hong Kong and Singapore need monitoring for signs of bubbles forming.

Benchmark U.S. 10-year notes yield 3.67 percent, versus the 20-year average of 5.54 percent, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Tightening Lending

Chinese banks raised the share of deposits they must set aside as reserves from Jan. 18, as the government seeks to rein in liquidity from record lending without stalling a recovery.

The People’s Bank of China also guided its benchmark one- year bill yield to the highest level in 14 months, selling them at a rate of 1.9264 percent in open-market operations, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. China is targeting 8 percent growth this year, Industry Minister Li Yizhong said Dec. 21.

“China now realizes that they’ve created too much money, that prices are going up too much and they’re trying to slow things down,” Rogers said. “These things are designed to take some of the heat out of the economy. Let’s hope it works.”

Investor Mark Mobius said Jan. 7 the bubble in China’s property market isn’t about to burst.

Act Rationally

“The Chinese will act rationally and they’re not going to kill the market,” Mobius, who oversees $34 billion of developing-nation assets at Templeton Asset Management Ltd., said in an interview in Singapore. “There’s still a lot of savings in China. Prices are high but I don’t see a crash.”

Rogers, the chairman of Singapore-based Rogers Holdings, also said today that he hasn’t sold any of his Chinese stocks even after last year’s rally. He reiterated that the last time he purchased stocks in the country was between October and November 2008.

Still, the rally in global stock markets means a “consolidation is overdue,” Rogers said. Commodities are a “much better place to be” than stocks, he said.

The Shanghai Composite Index, tracking the larger of China’s two mainland stock exchanges, rallied 80 percent last year, compared with a 27 percent gain in the MSCI World Index. The Chinese benchmark index has slipped 0.7 percent this year amid concern the government will further restrain lending.

Guanyu said...

Rogers Says Shanghai, Hong Kong Property in Bubble, May Fall

By Shiyin Chen and Valarie Tan
19 January 2010

(Bloomberg) -- Shanghai and Hong Kong property prices may fall after being driven higher by speculative demand, while the rest of the Chinese economy is “hardly in a bubble,” investor Jim Rogers said.

Attempts by China’s government to restrain lending may ease speculation and accelerating inflation, Rogers said in an interview in Bloomberg’s Singapore bureau today.

Property prices in 70 cities across China climbed 7.8 percent in December, the fastest pace in 18 months, a government report showed last week. Hong Kong’s real estate prices rallied the most among the world’s major housing markets last year, according to property adviser Knight Frank LLP, adding to signs that the city’s home values have risen too much.

“Certainly, Shanghai real estate or Hong Kong real estate should decline,” Rogers said. “My goodness, if anything’s in a bubble in the world, that and U.S. government bonds are certainly very overpriced.”

China’s property sales jumped 75.5 percent to 4.4 trillion yuan ($644 billion) last year, led by the eastern cities of Zhejiang and Shanghai, the National Bureau of Statistics said in a statement on its Web site today. Fred Hu, Goldman Sachs Group Inc.’s chairman for Greater China, said yesterday real estate prices in China, Hong Kong and Singapore need monitoring for signs of bubbles forming.

Benchmark U.S. 10-year notes yield 3.67 percent, versus the 20-year average of 5.54 percent, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Tightening Lending

Chinese banks raised the share of deposits they must set aside as reserves from Jan. 18, as the government seeks to rein in liquidity from record lending without stalling a recovery.

The People’s Bank of China also guided its benchmark one- year bill yield to the highest level in 14 months, selling them at a rate of 1.9264 percent in open-market operations, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. China is targeting 8 percent growth this year, Industry Minister Li Yizhong said Dec. 21.

“China now realizes that they’ve created too much money, that prices are going up too much and they’re trying to slow things down,” Rogers said. “These things are designed to take some of the heat out of the economy. Let’s hope it works.”

Investor Mark Mobius said Jan. 7 the bubble in China’s property market isn’t about to burst.

Act Rationally

“The Chinese will act rationally and they’re not going to kill the market,” Mobius, who oversees $34 billion of developing-nation assets at Templeton Asset Management Ltd., said in an interview in Singapore. “There’s still a lot of savings in China. Prices are high but I don’t see a crash.”

Rogers, the chairman of Singapore-based Rogers Holdings, also said today that he hasn’t sold any of his Chinese stocks even after last year’s rally. He reiterated that the last time he purchased stocks in the country was between October and November 2008.

Still, the rally in global stock markets means a “consolidation is overdue,” Rogers said. Commodities are a “much better place to be” than stocks, he said.

The Shanghai Composite Index, tracking the larger of China’s two mainland stock exchanges, rallied 80 percent last year, compared with a 27 percent gain in the MSCI World Index. The Chinese benchmark index has slipped 0.7 percent this year amid concern the government will further restrain lending.